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LiquidLight
01-22-2006, 05:27 PM
f/270
focal lenght 108mm
pinhole size 0,4mm
1minute 10 sec on efke r100 120 film. Attached files http://f295.f295.org/uploads/ifyougonnafly_7516.jpg (http://f295.f295.org/uploads/ifyougonnafly_7516.jpg)

Andrew
01-22-2006, 10:01 PM
I thought you meant the buzzz buzzz type of fly and then up pops "top gun"
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ImageMaker
01-22-2006, 11:58 PM
Took me a couple looks to place it -- but I think that's an old F-104 Starfighter. Those saw service in a number of European air forces after they were retired from USAF in favor of less fuel-thirsty and less cranky aircraft. West Germany, IIRC, kept them in service right up until the Wall fell. Plenty fast airplanes, but they had a reputation for killing pilots who got a little overconfident...

taco
01-23-2006, 04:03 PM
Took me a couple looks to place it -- but I think that's an old F-104 Starfighter. Those saw service in a number of European air forces after they were retired from USAF in favor of less fuel-thirsty and less cranky aircraft. West Germany, IIRC, kept them in service right up until the Wall fell. Plenty fast airplanes, but they had a reputation for killing pilots who got a little overconfident...
IM, you are wrong concerning West Germany: They bought them brand new from the factory but with such a lot of extra stuff that the model was official called by Lockheed the Starfighter F104G (G for Germany) and by the Germans the widowmaker :'(
http://www.starfarer.net/captlock.html
It was in my youth, but if I remember well of the 700 nearly 300 crashed, that must be a world record

ImageMaker
01-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Yeah, it doesn't do to overload an aircraft that stalls at 150 knots, unarmed and at sea level, and is unrecoverable if it gets into a spin (which the Starfighter did very commonly if you stalled it). And if you pulled a bunch of gees when you were low and slow, you'd get a reminder about accelerated stall -- IIRC, the Starfighter could be stalled at well above 300 knots if you got a little rambunctious with the stick...

And it *still* looks weird to see the wings slope down instead of up, and even weirder to see one with 30 cm of snow on top...